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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Myson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2024 at 7:00am
Hi Declan,

Assuming you're using the Artillery Hold on a rest, using Follow Thro', etc.. and assuming you've determined that that pellet is the best for your barrel (?), then I'd say a variable wind of that strength at 55yds is the main culprit because:
  • That pellet is light (7.8gr)
  • A new FWB .177 rifle has an MV of about 850fps
How does the FWB perform on a windless day at that range usually?

For comparison, my Weihrauch HW95 .177 breakbarrel - using 8.4gr AA Diabolo Field at 920fps - would only just improve on your group with that sort of wind at 55yds. On a still day, a 5-shot group would usually be within 20-23 mm at 55yds.

Hope that makes sense?

Have you tried different Head sizes too? I believe your pellet is mainly 4.50mm? You might like to review the following article?:

Let us know how you get along with your trials - thanks. Smile
Maybe a slightly heavier pellet would perform better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7jVyBfFqE
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Declan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2024 at 6:53pm
The pellets are unsorted straight out of the can. Good tip. Thanks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kruzaroad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2024 at 6:45pm
Looking at that spread first thing i would looking at is pellets. (assuming you have your hold sorted and rifle us accurate.)
Thats the sort of spread that is, looks like Flyers and not pulled shots.
How accurate is it at 20-30m?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Declan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2024 at 5:25pm
I hear about people shooting pellet on pellet over some longish distances. And shooting a pcp I believe marksmen can achieve that sort of accuracy.
Me? Well there’s no way I can achieve that degree of accuracy shooting a springer.
Today I shot over 50m in a 10kmh left to right variable breeze. I used my FWB Sport using .177 JSB Express pellets with a 3” target.
I’ve attached a couple of photos of my day’s end 7 shot group.
For me that’s about as good as I can achieve outdoors over that sort of distance. But I’m sure others could do a lot better. Cheers. Declan


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