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Talk to me about pumpers…

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Topic: Talk to me about pumpers…
Posted By: RangerPete
Subject: Talk to me about pumpers…
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2024 at 10:30pm
I know nothing about pump up air rifles, but I’m getting interested in them.
If you own one please help me with some info, what I’m interested in is the following info about your gun:
1- Make and model.
2- caliber
3- approximate fps and FPE across the range of “number of pumps”
4- most importantly, ACCURACY at 20m
5- does its accuracy depend on number of pumps?

Does anyone know which is considered to be the best (most accurate)?

Many thanks,
Pete.

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Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.



Replies:
Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 12:15am
Pete, check out my review of a Crosman 362. on this forum.


Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 12:30am
I have the 1322 and had a 362. Both were accurate 20m. Reviews on both are on the site.



Posted By: Deano
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 8:26am
I have a Sharp Innova .22 - there's a thread on it's refurbishment http://www.kiwiairgunners.co.nz/forum_posts.asp?TID=960" rel="nofollow - here .

I haven't personally tested mine in terms of power but pumped 8-10x the internet generally reckons in the 18-22 fpe area.

As for accuracy, my recently refurbished one put pellets into a 10mm group at 20m.  In the past I've shot 1/2" groups at 30m.  So pretty accurate.

Accuracy doesn't seem to be affected by pumps, more like the pellet you choose.  I am confident I could stack pellets at 10m with 4 pumps with the right ammo....



Posted By: Declan
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 8:52am
Years back I had a Crosman 397. It was sort of ok, but I got tired of having to pump it all of the time so I sold it. I’d much prefer a co2 or springer, if pcp wasn’t an option. Cheers. Declan


Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 6:07pm
Thanks for the answers guys. I’ll go look for the reviews 👍🏻

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Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.


Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 6:45pm
Kruza, I can’t find your review of a 1322.

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Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.


Posted By: Billbobnz
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 8:48pm
Ive got Kruzas 362 and love it, has steel breech and some pauly5 flow through bolt and suppressor, arm gets a work out if plinking.

Ted's Hold over on YouTube has done some reviews lately on pumpers.


Posted By: kruzaroad
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 11:42pm
Ain't my 362.
Its your 362.
Got a worked valve as well.


Posted By: BC_Clark
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2024 at 7:43pm

My first airgun was Crosman 760 with rifled barrel.
Easy to shoot accurately compared to springers since there's very little moving mass. Less hold sensitive.

Then I modified a Crosman 2289 pistol (.22) up to around 19 ft-lbs with short barrel.
Made it into a 23 ft-lb rifle with a stock and long barrel. Shot out to 100m.
Around 30 easy strokes for full power.

Then turned my Crosman 760 into a 50 ft-lb pistol.
Also a ground-up 100 ft-lb rifle with free floating barrel so the pressure doesn't alter the accuracy.

The pumper platform is really under-appreciated by manufacturers.
I don't see anything with the quality of high-end springers or PCP's
so it seems a really good pumper needs to be built up.





Posted By: Pauly5
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2024 at 9:31pm
Just for the hell of it I ran some shots on my 362 tonight. It has had some work done on the valve, hollow probe, increased hammer tension, reasonably straight forward stuff. At 16 pumps it shot 21.3 ft/lb, but there was still a little bit of pressure left, so there's not much point pumping more until until the valve can dump it better.

Using 18.52 grn H&N

Pumps            ft/lb
4                      9.38
5                     11.32
8                     15.6
9                     16.9
10                   18.01
12                   19.5
16                   21.3

So as BC Clark says, there is really a lot more that could be done to develop pumpers, but at 4 pumps, that's a respectable bit of power I reckon.  I see they have put out a pcp version of the 362 called 3622 I think.


Posted By: RangerPete
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2024 at 6:45am
Interesting thanks Pauly.

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Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.



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