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Billbobnz
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Are you serious...!! Wowzers looks like it's had a bath in sea water before being stored...!
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kruzaroad
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So here's the sig after 3 days in its padded hardcase not being used.
Doesn't say much for the anti corrosion on this particular gun. Oh well off hunting, it's been cleaned and reoiled |
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kruzaroad
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Poppy cock! If your at your technical limit, then it's time to start fine tuning.
( Though from a hunting aspect, those are both killer groups.) A spring change to something that will lessens the kick and by default fpe. Maybe a small tweek in your hold? Its really so close hole on hole it would be a shame not to find a way tighten it. |
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mercs
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30 metres warm calm Taranaki evening.
Previously zeroed to this distance. I had been pleased with JSB's so thought I would put them up against a pellet I use regularly. By the numbers the JSB has an edge. I think that I have reached my technical limit with this particular rifle. The Sig has a good kick so not sure if I can manage it any better.
20mm O.D. Sig ASP20 .22 JSB Match Diablo Jumbo Express 0.93 grammes 14.35 grains 5.52mm 21mm O.D. Sig ASP20 .22 RWS Super Field 1.03 grammes 15.9 grains 5.51mm |
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kruzaroad
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Weight will play part. There is a relationship between the extreme weight ranges and head size. I've found.
Flyers should cut right down. It also gives you time to check for head and skirt damage. Skirt damage can be a big thing in some tins. Actual roundness of the head is interesting too. I found a few pellets that measured differnt on one side to the other. The worst was 4.50mm one side and 4.46mm on the other. I imagine that would affect flight chararistics as well. Skirt damage is a biggie with me I'm pretty hard on my judgement of it, it takes very little to lift the skirt to high for effective seal. |
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Myson
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Thanks Kruza.
Interesting.... we'll see what headsize is best for my barrel. The reason I'm thinking one headsize will be best is that I'm getting fliers in some of my current groups with the "4.50" tin and I reckon those fliers are most probably due to unsuitable headsizes in the tin? I've weighed the pellets into three weight groups (Lite, Medium and Heavy) and I get fliers in all three weight groups so it's probably not a difference of weight - more like a difference in headsize that's causing the odd flier or two. The good thing is that if I ignore the fliers, the groups are great with H&N Baracuda Match 4.50's. If I can find the right headsize (that does not produce fliers), I think I'm looking at 30mm 7-shot groups at 50yds consistently. Sweet! Can't wait for my pellet headsize checker to arrive!
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kruzaroad
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I'd put money on 4.53mm not shooting well at all.
4.52mm being tad erratic. I found the 4.50mm and 4.49mm grouping best and holding target in AA. I'd be keen to see your results. There seems to be a lot of mention of baracuda, and I be interested in results. Great review mercs, I'll try get one up on AA and exact just getting ready to shift at moment so not as much time as id Like. Still got enough room for shooting targets where I'm off too. |
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Myson
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Excellent tests mercs!
I'm waiting for my pellet headsize checker to arrive from UK before I continue testing the SIG because I'm convinced my SIG is very headsize fussy? I want to try each headsize from a new tin of H&N's Baracuda Match 4.50 (4.46mm - 4.53mm) to see if there's one headsize that consistently gives tightest groups. My gut feel is that those headsizes below 4.50mm will be better than those above...? We'll see.... |
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mercs
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Clear warm day with a pleasant breeze. Measured pellet drop did not always match the calculated values. General trend was there but 20mm difference at 50 metres. I had a fixed target and moved shooting position on not so flat land so not the best technique. I expect if all the required details are known and entered the calculator would be spot on. The required measured 80mm holdover has merit with experience at local 50 metre rifle range. The measured and calculated 40 metre result is also backed up by field experience off the fenceposts. 20 to 35 metres just shoot without thinking about correction. When close at 15 metre I would normally go 20mm high so much closer to calculated value and shooting up into a tree would need all of that and some. I was liking the groups from the JSB Jumbo Express pellets so will do some more work with them and see if I can get some numbers to line up using the turret MOA adjustment as I am becoming confident with my new scope.
Distance meter Leupold RX1300i Chronometer XCORTECH X3200 Calculator X-ACT
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Ralph
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Just a bit of useless information. The stock on the Sig Asp20 was patterned after the SIG Sauer SSG 3000 sniper rifle
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